tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post600500966203260936..comments2023-05-20T05:03:05.042-05:00Comments on Writing. Mine. Join Me.: Honoring dishonorable deeds for regression and the rapture.Charlenehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17167633465853736197noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-51212436675600374252011-06-02T15:07:46.473-05:002011-06-02T15:07:46.473-05:00Hi Charlene. You might be interested in reading &...Hi Charlene. You might be interested in reading "Slavery by Another Name," a book by Douglas A. Blackmon. It's a fascinating study of how "slavery" in essence did not stop until WWII...<br /><br />The book deserves wide dissemination but I'm afraid too many people wish to live with their delusions.Lowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15305748075301453010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-66260097405728002332011-05-29T13:30:55.692-05:002011-05-29T13:30:55.692-05:00I've tried for days to post a comment to the c...I've tried for days to post a comment to the comments with my Google ID and it sends me on a circular trip which never resolves. SO, I'm posting anonymous. Sigh. - Charlene<br /><br /><br />Sarah: I guess that is a difference between Europe and America. We don't get all that wound up if people dress in their cultural garb. Heck, we don't get to making laws about dress at all unless you're inside a strip club and there nakedness can not be in the same room with alcohol you paid for!<br /><br />Glnroz: I can make accidental points without using my hands!<br /><br />Bathwater: So glad.<br /><br />KathyA: Ass clowns are so not funny.<br /><br />Savannah: Psst. Don't mention papers some small town council will pass an ordinance.<br /><br />Nance: I don't think any of the fools would actually flourish in another Civil War. I'd bet a dollar or two that the moment that confrontation happened, they'd be in their basement with their canned goods and a rifle pointed at the door vs. fighting like soldiers.<br /><br />On the subject of slavery, immigrants in the times were treated as slaves to earlier arrivals. If you arrived on our shores a poor uneducated person you worked as the lowest of the low and others profited greatly by it. There are arrogant people today who view workers as a means to production and believe they should pay what they like. This is why we cannot allow regression to those "good old days" where few days were good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-80388957544325551192011-05-25T19:28:20.229-05:002011-05-25T19:28:20.229-05:00I agree, we do not need more to divide us. The foo...I agree, we do not need more to divide us. The fools who want to flaunt the racism of the Civil War and Jim Crow South are just itching for a rematch and they hardly care with whom.<br /><br />If we really mean to remove divisions, however, it's important to realize that we can't put an end to romanticizing history by ignoring parts of it. The entire country, as it existed prior to the Civil War, flourished on the backs of those Southern slaves. <br /><br />We became financial independent (not just ideologically independent) as a result of selling cotton, rice, and indigo to the Europe that colonized us; we wouldn't have needed a civil war if we hadn't--all of us--milked the labor of those enslaved humans for all it was worth, because we wouldn't have been an independent country without them. <br /><br />There were slaves in the North. There were slaves in Canada. Enslaved blacks built pre-Civil War America. All of it. <br /><br />We can't end the hideous, ignorant divisiveness by divorcing the South. That's more division. I speak as a Southerner who grew up in the Jim Crow South and remember it well. It was the very essence of sin. It was a national sin, not a regional one.Nancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15166865250789996825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-79552996385749265502011-05-25T13:36:43.943-05:002011-05-25T13:36:43.943-05:00amen, sister! as a country we have got to look at ...amen, sister! as a country we have got to look at our history with all of its warts and blemishes to understand how far we've come and how far we still need to go in terms of ethnic equality. we're all one race and that's the human race! our nationality, no matter what the color of our skin or our style of dress, is American and the last time i looked, we didn't need papers to travel from georgia to new york or any other state in our glorious union! xoxxoosavannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04310843901371718758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-17675369354304221032011-05-24T13:53:28.929-05:002011-05-24T13:53:28.929-05:00You're right -- What we definitely do not need...You're right -- What we definitely do not need in this country are these divisive ass clowns.KathyAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12723937251892708482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-7875066210650212702011-05-24T13:48:51.025-05:002011-05-24T13:48:51.025-05:00I agree they should not be endorsing a confederate...I agree they should not be endorsing a confederate flag, on a state license plate.Bathwaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18286545216706532921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-53206854226205426302011-05-23T11:18:33.323-05:002011-05-23T11:18:33.323-05:00you raise a good point,,,well maybe more than one,...you raise a good point,,,well maybe more than one,,,:)glnrozhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12922837344762102334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-16738867326936486402011-05-23T06:09:08.187-05:002011-05-23T06:09:08.187-05:00In France recently they banned the wearing of the ...In France recently they banned the wearing of the Burka. If a woman is seen to be wearing it in public she will be fined 150Euros.<br /><br />In the UK, it is not banned, but there is a lot of debate. I would not like to think my child was being taught in a school by a woman wearing what basically amounts to a mask. How would my child know what this woman really means if he can only see her eyes?<br />Why do people need to display things to make them separate? For me it only serves to show a form of defiance.<br />For my sins I do not know much about American history, but the one thing which sticks out in my mind is the Ku Klux Klan.<br />I agree with you about the License plates.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09730613605597401088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-82341612716386550712011-05-22T20:20:28.119-05:002011-05-22T20:20:28.119-05:00Facts are my bitches.Facts are my bitches.AnnoyingJoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08631223785386899100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-33330776141193081892011-05-22T18:25:50.758-05:002011-05-22T18:25:50.758-05:00Coffeypot: That's right. Remember the words ...Coffeypot: That's right. Remember the words of the Pledge.<br /><br />Chairman: I agree.<br /><br />Christopher: I wonder the same.<br /><br />KrippleWarrior: I will admit this moment that I have not made a hobby or career of studying the Civil War as you may have. I have read a lot about it from the POV of the south and from the POV of the north. Anyone with a mildly objective outlook knows the Civil War was fought because those owning others as cattle and unpaid workers to make their lives easier were not willing to stop without a fight. Those not owning slaves were poor people like my ancestors who were farmers on small acreage. Those people did not band together to stop slavery but took up arms with their wealthier neighbors to fight for their "rights" to enslave. Regardless, it was a shameful time and people wanting to remember their ancestors' deeds are welcome to do so. The state supporting that is wrong.<br /><br />Yellowdog Granny: Yeah. It would be easier to identify the bigots if they'd wear a sign.<br /><br />Annoying Joe: Thanks! I knew you readers could say it better than me in rebuttal.<br /><br />Urban Cynic: Exactly. I believe a majority of the US is moving forwarding. There seems however, there are a few who will continue to argue for the old ways, even when they are not moral ways in any regard.Charlenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17167633465853736197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-15708470751733133022011-05-22T09:08:05.985-05:002011-05-22T09:08:05.985-05:00It's incredible at how both quickly and slowly...It's incredible at how both quickly and slowly the USA and the World has moved with racism. Just 50 years ago people wanted to control and persecute non-whites and now you have a black president. It's a pity the World hasn't moved on as quickly with rights for women...<br /><br />It's also a shame that people aren't judged more on the content of their hearts and the merit of their usefulness rather than the lottery of their birth and ancestry.Urban Cynichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07968949122197550072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-38664705344581455682011-05-22T08:49:55.638-05:002011-05-22T08:49:55.638-05:00Krippled Warrior - Unfortunately, that "very ...Krippled Warrior - Unfortunately, that "very small percentage" of southern whites that owned slaves also owned the majority of the wealth. I think it's fair to equate confederacy with slavery when the Confederate economy was dependent largely upon the institution of slavery. Here's an interesting article that might shed some light on the subject for you...<br /><br />http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/ransom.civil.war.us<br /><br />I find this comment from said article to be most illuminating:<br /><br /> "In the seven states where most of the cotton was grown, almost one-half the population were slaves, and they accounted for 31 percent of white people's income; for all 11 Confederate States, slaves represented 38 percent of the population and contributed 23 percent of whites' income"AnnoyingJoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08631223785386899100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-73751702848472516492011-05-21T13:57:43.363-05:002011-05-21T13:57:43.363-05:00why don't they just put up little pointy white...why don't they just put up little pointy white sheets on there and get it over with..sigh*yellowdoggrannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14906624317290990109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-56645513400839628562011-05-21T13:06:05.154-05:002011-05-21T13:06:05.154-05:00I would imagine that if you studied as deeply as y...I would imagine that if you studied as deeply as you purport to have done, on the topic of the civil war, I would think that you would know that only a very small percentage of the southern whites "Owned Slaves". And you are picking only one aspect of the confederacy to hang it with. In the spirit of truth and knowledge, why not explore the full topic, rather than equate confederacy with slavery?KrippledWarriorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09693973753642324616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-7200503478954761782011-05-21T02:05:55.278-05:002011-05-21T02:05:55.278-05:00Looking at this from Europe I wonder when certain ...Looking at this from Europe I wonder when certain sections of American society particularly in the south are going to grow up and stop playing at being the Taliban. It's fear, of course, that governs any form of sectarianism. Come and live next door, Charlene.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14227767014123557100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-17174729894864769162011-05-20T23:35:28.965-05:002011-05-20T23:35:28.965-05:00It's another example of tribalism - that sympt...It's another example of tribalism - that symptom of the human condition.<br /><br />Basically (both biologically and psychologically), we're still cavemen, living in a modern technological world that depends on co-operation and the elimination of differences to make progress.Chairman Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07908632282972692269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3016329827732072461.post-58296203609491002082011-05-20T22:18:40.547-05:002011-05-20T22:18:40.547-05:00I am from the South, raised in the southern custom...I am from the South, raised in the southern customs. I also was raised watching the KKK march, but I was too young to go to their meetings. My dad wasn’t one, because he was always home when that shit happened. I lived through and witnessed the racial tensions of the era. I remember white and colored water coolers and riding in the back of the bus. I also remember the fight over the flag. The Confederate flag is not the Confederate States of America flag. That was the battle flag. It was designed that way so as not to confuse it with the American Flag – they were so similar. But with all my heritage (I have yet to find where any of my family on both sides ever owned slaves. They say that had so many kids that they could afford or need them to farm.) I sided with the State of Georgia in changing the state flag. I don’t see the need to have the Confederate Flag to remind me of my heritage. Besides, everyone, black and white, lived under the US flag. We are one nation.Coffeypothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08601474604616163167noreply@blogger.com